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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2023 8:13:27 GMT
A reality check - In all these comments, no-one has suggested an alternative apart from 'stay as we are'. If we do that, the club is doomed to decline. It's already started. The budget for this season is unchanged from last season. Allowing for inflation, that's a budget cut. Do we do the same next season and the season afterwards? Of the four key full-time members of staff who left at the end of last season, only one has so far been replaced and he's part-time. Some staff are now doing multiple roles resulting in massive stress. At the moment, the position of Financial Controller is being multitasked by someone with no training in accountancy. So what should we do? Seek some elusive sugar daddy? Pray for a global company to sponsor us at £5m a year? Find more owners? -We appear to increase ownership by about 200 a year; that's £10k which doesn't even cover the inflation on the playing budgets. Other clubs are investing massively. We aren't, can't, and never will be able to under the current system.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2023 8:21:02 GMT
will members/owners have a chance to vote on this proposal whether its to be a yes or no??? if not then the implication would be its already a done deal
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Post by Trojandog (Terry M) on Aug 25, 2023 8:33:01 GMT
will members/owners have a chance to vote on this proposal whether its to be a yes or no??? if not then the implication would be its already a done deal Rightly I'd say yes, it should go to an owner vote, but you'll be asking owners in Canada, Australia and Malaysia to decide the future of a club they've never visited.
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Post by robm99 on Aug 25, 2023 8:37:24 GMT
Rightly I'd say yes, it should go to an owner vote, but you'll be asking owners in Canada, Australia and Malaysia to decide the future of a club they've never visited. I've never been to a Ford factory but I have shares in them! @terrym - "Other clubs are investing massively" - from where is that money coming?
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Post by Barry Collins on Aug 25, 2023 8:48:55 GMT
I think it would be disgraceful if this wasn't put to an owners' vote, and I'm concerned I've seen nobody from the board even suggest it will be yet.
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Post by Trojandog (Terry M) on Aug 25, 2023 8:55:26 GMT
There are obviously strongly held views on both sides of the argument but we should try and remain civil - I myself made a flippant comment yesterday for which I apologise.
One observation: It is now 24 hours since the announcement of something that could radically alter the future of Lewes FC. This discussion now runs to six pages with 23 contributors. That's out of the entire fan base and 2,400 owners. We can shout at each other all we want, but the reality is the likelihood that most supporters don't give a toss how the club is run. If they were that galvanised in their support, more than two would have turned up for the last Paint the Pan day. They just want to watch a game of footy with a pie and a pint. I doubt if 95% even know that there is a Lewes FC forum.
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Post by joem on Aug 25, 2023 9:00:18 GMT
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Post by spur on Aug 25, 2023 9:03:49 GMT
In a sensible equalities scenario the men and women would share the playing budget and operate at the same level - the women in the equivalent of Isthmian premiership and with the same hope of gradual promotion step by step. What we have is this huge mismatch, with the women reaching for the stars almost overnight. This is our wretched dilemma.
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Post by Trojandog (Terry M) on Aug 25, 2023 9:11:52 GMT
In a sensible equalities scenario the men and women would share the playing budget and operate at the same level - the women in the equivalent of Isthmian premiership and with the same hope of gradual promotion step by step. What we have is this huge mismatch, with the women reaching for the stars almost overnight. This is our wretched dilemma. Which is why the existing 'equal playing budget' scenario is no longer viable. When that was brought in, the women were playing two leagues lower.
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spur
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Post by spur on Aug 25, 2023 9:15:33 GMT
Quite. But that doesn't decide the question.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2023 9:23:28 GMT
I think it would be disgraceful if this wasn't put to an owners' vote, and I'm concerned I've seen nobody from the board even suggest it will be yet. indeed barry most concerning and if it isnt the very clear implication would be its a done deal
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Post by wm on Aug 25, 2023 9:27:39 GMT
will members/owners have a chance to vote on this proposal whether its to be a yes or no??? if not then the implication would be its already a done deal Rightly I'd say yes, it should go to an owner vote, but you'll be asking owners in Canada, Australia and Malaysia to decide the future of a club they've never visited. You have eloquently exposed the nonsense of the Club spending years courting and accepting owners in Canada, Australia and Malaysia of a club they've never visited. Think about that (especially before accusing me of more 'slanging' please).
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Post by wm on Aug 25, 2023 9:41:17 GMT
and this consultation which could move us from equality to equity. Can you explain what you mean by this please – do you just mean moving from insisting on equality, to selling off equity? a more professional set up off the pitch with some of the roles currently performed by volunteers (the website for instance) being better resourced and funded. That'd be handy, as there'd then be no excuse for the website showing nothing about this news!
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Post by stuartnoel on Aug 25, 2023 9:43:04 GMT
I think it would be disgraceful if this wasn't put to an owners' vote, and I'm concerned I've seen nobody from the board even suggest it will be yet. indeed barry most concerning and if it isnt the very clear implication would be its a done deal Although technically the club rules wouldn't require a vote because the change isn't to Lewes CFC we want to do this properly, which is why we're doing the consultation process. That consultation process might take multiple rounds/formats depending on the feedback, what the stressors are, where the friction is and where the gaps in our knowledge are, hence why we are encouraging owners to provide that feedback and comment through the channels we’ve set up.
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Post by gonefishing046 on Aug 25, 2023 9:48:22 GMT
indeed barry most concerning and if it isnt the very clear implication would be its a done deal Although technically the club rules wouldn't require a vote because the change isn't to Lewes CFC we want to do this properly, which is why we're doing the consultation process. That consultation process might take multiple rounds/formats depending on the feedback, what the stressors are, where the friction is and where the gaps in our knowledge are, hence why we are encouraging owners to provide that feedback and comment through the channels we’ve set up.
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