captain
Isthmian Premier
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Post by captain on Jul 17, 2024 14:21:05 GMT
Attracting a good goal scorer costs money. Do we have the budget to do this? Maybe not. Would having Tommy Wood (or similar) back work?
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spur
Isthmian South
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Post by spur on Jul 17, 2024 14:39:09 GMT
A (mildly) interesting ploy last night was a defender taking goalkicks and passing straight to the keeper. Not clear what the purpose is, but perhaps we'll work it out in time. Doesn's seem any point if he's going to whack it upfield anyway. Shorter balls sometimes put defenders in tro
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spur
Isthmian South
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Post by spur on Jul 17, 2024 14:42:36 GMT
Where was I?! Shorter balls sometimes put defenders in trouble against Crawley, but we won't usually be up against such speedy attackers.
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robm99
Isthmian South
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Post by robm99 on Jul 18, 2024 9:03:36 GMT
A (mildly) interesting ploy last night was a defender taking goalkicks and passing straight to the keeper. Not clear what the purpose is, but perhaps we'll work it out in time. Doesn't seem any point if he's going to whack it anyway Yes, the whole "play it short" thing makes me nervous! Maybe it has occurred because of the change in the goal-kick law. It has cost us in the past (and no doubt other teams). Is it a "fashion" thing, like everyone going over to one side of the pitch for a goal-kick? That doesn't seem to happen now.
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agl
Sussex County Division One
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Post by agl on Jul 18, 2024 13:18:54 GMT
A (mildly) interesting ploy last night was a defender taking goalkicks and passing straight to the keeper. Not clear what the purpose is, but perhaps we'll work it out in time. Doesn't seem any point if he's going to whack it anyway Yes, the whole "play it short" thing makes me nervous! Maybe it has occurred because of the change in the goal-kick law. It has cost us in the past (and no doubt other teams). Is it a "fashion" thing, like everyone going over to one side of the pitch for a goal-kick? That doesn't seem to happen now. It sort of makes sense. Go long and, unless you are very accurate, there's a 50 per cent chance of losing possession. At the elite levels players have the ability and composure to play out of trouble from the back and break through a press. Personally I don't think players at our level are good enough, particularly against good teams that press in numbers. Trouble is, every manager these days is a Pep wannabe.
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Post by fairweatherrook on Jul 18, 2024 14:59:05 GMT
I'd much rather a team try to play it short and perhaps concede a goal from it once in every 10 games than hoof it and give it back to the opposition 90% of the time. Obviously there are times to hit it long but doing it every game doesn't make for watchable football.
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keatont
East Sussex Football League
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Post by keatont on Jul 18, 2024 17:21:19 GMT
Yes, the whole "play it short" thing makes me nervous! Maybe it has occurred because of the change in the goal-kick law. It has cost us in the past (and no doubt other teams). Is it a "fashion" thing, like everyone going over to one side of the pitch for a goal-kick? That doesn't seem to happen now. It sort of makes sense. Go long and, unless you are very accurate, there's a 50 per cent chance of losing possession. At the elite levels players have the ability and composure to play out of trouble from the back and break through a press. Personally I don't think players at our level are good enough, particularly against good teams that press in numbers. Trouble is, every manager these days is a Pep wannabe. But are teams at our level good enough to press properly and not leave themselves open? That's why the football is so good to watch at the level
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clive
Sussex County Division Two
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Post by clive on Jul 19, 2024 3:23:34 GMT
It sort of makes sense. Go long and, unless you are very accurate, there's a 50 per cent chance of losing possession. At the elite levels players have the ability and composure to play out of trouble from the back and break through a press. Personally I don't think players at our level are good enough, particularly against good teams that press in numbers. Trouble is, every manager these days is a Pep wannabe. But are teams at our level good enough to press properly and not leave themselves open? That's why the football is so good to watch at the level
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clive
Sussex County Division Two
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Post by clive on Jul 19, 2024 3:33:18 GMT
yep everyone wants to be a pep but what is often overlooked is that the first priority is to win NOT how to win after all if the rooks were using so called primitive tactics but being succesful would it really bother people speaking for myself it wouldnt bother me a bit
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Post by gonefishing046 on Jul 19, 2024 6:22:25 GMT
yep everyone wants to be a pep but what is often overlooked is that the first priority is to win NOT how to win after all if the rooks were using so called primitive tactics but being succesful would it really bother people speaking for myself it wouldnt bother me a bit If the players were good enough too play out from back they wouldn't be in Isthmian league. I remember Adam virgo in a comment on a national league game on tnt this past season bemoaning goalkeeper at that level getting in trouble trying it. Said if he could play football he wouldn't be a keeper and not at this level. Just kick it.
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keatont
East Sussex Football League
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Post by keatont on Jul 19, 2024 9:35:04 GMT
yep everyone wants to be a pep but what is often overlooked is that the first priority is to win NOT how to win after all if the rooks were using so called primitive tactics but being succesful would it really bother people speaking for myself it wouldnt bother me a bit But in recent years we've had good results from playing attractive football and rubbish results from direct football. I would assume it's much easier to recruit players if you're playing good football as it's more useful to show you can step up. And not at lot of teams at our level are successful with direct football
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Post by pj on Jul 19, 2024 12:32:11 GMT
Hornchurch did quite well last season by being very direct on their cabbage patch pitch. Terrible to watch but it worked for them.
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clive
Sussex County Division Two
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Post by clive on Jul 19, 2024 13:31:42 GMT
exactly pj now dont misunderstand i prefer the fancy dan stuff but as you say being direct might be terrible to watch but it worked for them and they were champions perhaps the answer would be to mix it up a bit and be able to instantly do so
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