wm
Sussex County Division Two
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Post by wm on Aug 11, 2023 22:34:31 GMT
Obviously all this goalies playing it out with their feet is all the rage, but it's quite an exaggeration to claim that all play starts with him. It's as if kick-offs never happens, that throw-ins never occur, that the opposition never give the ball away, and there's never a free-kick awarded. No wonder their fees are so large if they have everyone blowing smoke you-know-where all the time
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Post by sedlescombe on Aug 12, 2023 7:10:49 GMT
A bit of background here…. The goalkeeper is a key position for any/every club. For us the keeper is the source of all of our play, and has to be able to play with their feet. Consequently, we have a target list of keepers we wanted to bring in. Keepers who can play with their feet are in great demand and so can command a big fee. We looked at 3-4 keepers in pre-season but always had a no.1 choice. At the eleventh hour, thanks to the tireless efforts of our management and football admin team we’ve been able to secure his services. But that requires an additional amount of admin to get him signed. Until we get that confirmation, which we hopefully will get late tonight, we won’t announce anything. At least having the keeper as the source of ALL our play saves us recruiting ball winning midfielders, forwards who close down their defenders and defenders who win tackles I’m showing my prejudices here as I have always thought this fashion of goalkeepers who are Pirlo’s-in-gloves as desperately overrated, beyond a handful of international standard players. And I don’t much like them either. Hopefully he can stop shots and catch crosses 😂
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Post by piddinghoer on Aug 12, 2023 7:35:09 GMT
It’s very interesting the way that styles of play filter down from the top of the game. For example goal kicks. Since time began, a goal kick involved booting the ball as far up the pitch as possible but now it’s fashionable to kick it about two feet and ‘play out from the back’. That started in the Prem but now you see it at all levels with mixed results.
The Albion must be the prime example of having a goalkeeper that is good with his feet. Jason Steele is now a Premier League goalkeeper that is sniffing around the England squad yet for years he’s been pretty bang average. He is an OK goalkeeper but he is exceptional with the ball at his feet and even has a couple of assists to his name. It will be interesting to see how the new Rooks keeper gets on with play starting from him. The problem will be that he’s no Jason Steele and Lewes don’t have a Dunk and Caicedo (and neither do the Albion now).
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robm99
Isthmian South
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Post by robm99 on Aug 12, 2023 7:44:07 GMT
"It’s very interesting the way that styles of play filter down from the top of the game. For example goal kicks. Since time began, a goal kick involved booting the ball as far up the pitch as possible but now it’s fashionable to kick it about two feet and ‘play out from the back’. That started in the Prem but now you see it at all levels with mixed results."
This is a style of play developed by the pharmaceutical companies that sell heart pills!! To be serious, as you say, it's better than the big boot down the middle, which used to be the thing to do when I started watching football. Mind you, that was in 1966. On a slightly different note one thing that has entered the modern game is clustering by the touchline for a goal kick. Just boot it down the middle!!
Another thought - it has probably come about because of the change in the law that the goal kick does not have to come out of the penalty area for the ball to be in play.
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offside
Sussex County Division Two
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Post by offside on Aug 12, 2023 8:00:48 GMT
I don't read being good with feet as just about playing it short. It's having a keeper who can do that and has the football brain to know when to play it long too. Carey was great with his feet but got quite a number of assists by going route one to JT at the right moment.
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hoopsboy1
Sussex County Division Two
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Post by hoopsboy1 on Aug 12, 2023 8:12:00 GMT
Who have we signed
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Post by nicorijnders on Aug 12, 2023 8:20:59 GMT
Obviously all this goalies playing it out with their feet is all the rage, but it's quite an exaggeration to claim that all play starts with him. It's as if kick-offs never happens, that throw-ins never occur, that the opposition never give the ball away, and there's never a free-kick awarded. No wonder their fees are so large if they have everyone blowing smoke you-know-where all the time I'm not sure whether it's refreshing but it's definitely noticeable how a number of Lewes fans seems to take the opposite approach to social / fan media than most, where a "my club right or wrong attitude prevails". We seem to prefer to spend the week before the season argue that the club might be technically non-compliant with minimum wage legislation and here we are pretending to think that the chairman literally thinks that all attacking play starts from the goalkeeper, instead of just having used the word "all" where "much" or "most" would have done.
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Post by stuartnoel on Aug 12, 2023 8:33:46 GMT
Obviously all this goalies playing it out with their feet is all the rage, but it's quite an exaggeration to claim that all play starts with him. It's as if kick-offs never happens, that throw-ins never occur, that the opposition never give the ball away, and there's never a free-kick awarded. No wonder their fees are so large if they have everyone blowing smoke you-know-where all the time I'm not sure whether it's refreshing but it's definitely noticeable how a number of Lewes fans seems to take the opposite approach to social / fan media than most, where a "my club right or wrong attitude prevails". We seem to prefer to spend the week before the season argue that the club might be technically non-compliant with minimum wage legislation and here we are pretending to think that the chairman literally thinks that all attacking play starts from the goalkeeper, instead of just having used the word "all" where "much" or "most" would have done. I like to think, and I hope I’m right in some sense, that we are doing a lot of things well/right and so these are the points that concern fans. I’m just glad we’ve moved on from matters such as our on the field performance is somehow linked to the beach huts and the food available in the ground (both have been raised as contributory factors for poor results before)
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wm
Sussex County Division Two
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Post by wm on Aug 12, 2023 8:53:48 GMT
Obviously all this goalies playing it out with their feet is all the rage, but it's quite an exaggeration to claim that all play starts with him. It's as if kick-offs never happens, that throw-ins never occur, that the opposition never give the ball away, and there's never a free-kick awarded. No wonder their fees are so large if they have everyone blowing smoke you-know-where all the time I'm not sure whether it's refreshing but it's definitely noticeable how a number of Lewes fans seems to take the opposite approach to social / fan media than most, where a "my club right or wrong attitude prevails". We seem to prefer to spend the week before the season argue that the club might be technically non-compliant with minimum wage legislation and here we are pretending to think that the chairman literally thinks that all attacking play starts from the goalkeeper, instead of just having used the word "all" where "much" or "most" would have done. One can only comment on what one reads. "All" is pretty declaratory in that instance, but silly me for being so literal. And as for people wanting clarity over legal compliance, is that really surprising when this club boasts all the time about how it does the 'right thing'??
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Post by sedlescombe on Aug 12, 2023 9:20:08 GMT
Obviously all this goalies playing it out with their feet is all the rage, but it's quite an exaggeration to claim that all play starts with him. It's as if kick-offs never happens, that throw-ins never occur, that the opposition never give the ball away, and there's never a free-kick awarded. No wonder their fees are so large if they have everyone blowing smoke you-know-where all the time I'm not sure whether it's refreshing but it's definitely noticeable how a number of Lewes fans seems to take the opposite approach to social / fan media than most, where a "my club right or wrong attitude prevails". We seem to prefer to spend the week before the season argue that the club might be technically non-compliant with minimum wage legislation and here we are pretending to think that the chairman literally thinks that all attacking play starts from the goalkeeper, instead of just having used the word "all" where "much" or "most" would have done. A curious post. You criticise picking up on the word “all” which Stuart has used. Surely the point is that it reflects our approach…hence “this is how we aim to play” and I would take issue with that approach at our level especially when we are told that the deal was being done quote at the eleventh hour unquote. As much as anything I tend to dislike this approach and prefer the keeper to get it down field. Whoever is in goal let’s all hope they can keep the ball out. You also have a pop at the thread about whether a particular post meets minimum wage legislation as if we’re some irrelevance. First of all there is now such thing as “technically non-compliant”. You are breaking the law or you aren’t. I would also note the dissonance associated with arguably the wokest* club in Britain being revealed as a pooty and exploitative employer if we were not meeting fair-pay legislation. I think people quoted on that thread care about the reputation of the club. Although we never seemed to quite get clarification beyond the post being filled we have to hope that legislation is complied with. It’s not irrelevant it’s about what the club stands for. *I hate the way this word has been weaponised so let me point out that I agree with Kathy Burke when she said “I’d rather be woke than a ****”
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Post by stuartnoel on Aug 12, 2023 21:28:53 GMT
So, the new keeper then. Thoughts on Nathan’s performance today?
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Post by pj on Aug 12, 2023 21:55:30 GMT
So, the new keeper then. Thoughts on Nathan’s performance today? Very good. Did everything he had to with no dramas
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Post by everyotherweek on Aug 13, 2023 6:34:40 GMT
I was impressed with what I saw. Agile and looked quick. I didn't see him at ground level, but he looked less tall than the average keeper. I believe this could also be described as 'shorter' - not a problem, merely an observation.
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Post by gonefishing046 on Aug 13, 2023 7:17:10 GMT
So, the new keeper then. Thoughts on Nathan’s performance today?
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Post by gonefishing046 on Aug 13, 2023 7:19:55 GMT
Very confident and assured on the ball. Good handling skills. Made saves and held on too ball rather than pushing out. I think once he fills out as he gets older will have more strength too come out hard in crosses. Going too play at higher level than this if he gets the breaks. Well done on finding and signing
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